INTERVIEW WITH CLE CREATOR AND PRODUCER ZELAN BONN
By Lisa Moquin
Q1. Why are you involved with such a controversial subject like the extraterrestrial life issue?
A1. Simply because it's time we get the truth to the public on behalf of Humanity-Earth. I believe that once we all realize and accept the cosmic life reality, we will begin to see ourselves differently and that change in ourselves will lead to change in cultures and eventually a big shift away from war and military and the death and costs that surrounds that industry. That will mean Humanity-Earth will have much more money and resources to devote toward positive pursuits as part of a greater Cosmic Brotherhood. We all need a unifying theme and goal that helps us put down our weapons and understand we're all part of a single existence---we are cosmic human beings and custodians of a fantastic planet that needs more love and less greed and war.
Q2. So you really believe ET exists and we are not alone? Can I ask you why?
A2.Research supports the fact over 3.7 billion on this planet believe in intelligent ET and the disbelievers are in the minority now. In my own thirty years of cosmic life research. I've seen "top secret" declassified documents that prove ET is out there. The global body of evidence is overwhelming and we finally have top minds, top scientists and experts all agreeing.
I got involved with this subject because of something I saw and could not explain. I've never seen an ET, of course, but I have reviewed official documents and expert observer, radar, witness and other statements as well as military analysis and I know ET exists--we are going to gives "best in class" evidence to the Blue Ribbon scientific panel and team of attorneys and we believe they will have to agree with their own verdicts.
I tell the skeptics ET belief is like the airplane example. Some people, having never seen an airplane, say they can't exist yet their belief does not change the reality they actually do exist. If they had seen documents, schematics, photos of airplanes and endless witness testimony of those who reported seeing airplanes, they'd change their minds. So for me to say there is no ET is to label myself a nut-job. An expert on ice cream should not walk into an ice cream shop and say vanilla ice cream does not exists because the people in there will think you've lost your marbles! This is a highly complex subject and an industry overfilled with government-fostered disinformation and it takes experts to help the non-expert public sift through the garbage and get the truth exposed---that is what the CLE is working to do for us all on this planet.
Q3. Why put together the CLE---what is the point of it all--who cares if ET exists or not?
A3. I already answered that in the first question but I can offer some more detail.
Long ago I discovered and confirmed the actual documents proving the US government, namely the US military, had classified everything to do with ET or UFOs out of reach of the public and that it had been going on since WWII. Thousands of people working in good government and private jobs have had their careers and lives destroyed by this secretive machine in the name of national security. My research showed me the military was justified in its secrecy stance until about 1990, after which there was no longer any need for the cover-up of such important realities that impact us all. The world could now be told We Are Not Alone. Yet the Pentagon, having erected a well funded Black Psychological Warfare Project to control information and install disinformation on the subject, had superbly conditioned the public to ridicule everything ET and UFO related. We all live in a fantasy world where ET is real but we are told he does not exist---governments waste billions of dollars just to hide that reality. We have all been brain washed, so to speak. Now it is time to set the record straight and move Humanity-Earth into a new and better direction using facts and proof. Our project should make believers out of the whole world, especially public governments (the secret branches already know the facts).
Q4. If ET exists and the secret branches of government know about it and the CLE project can prove that, then a lot rich people (who are spending a lot of money to search for ET) are wasting their money, aren't they?
A4. Yes. We can prove the existence of ET for less than the cost of Superhero Movie and make more profit doing it all while using some of those profits to help Humanity-Earth itself, including aiding other nonprofits and the development of new forms of propulsion drives that will take us to exoplanets. Our project should result in the largest dumping of money into space related ventures ever seen---the next Internet Gold Rush. It is not that the industry is not already headed toward that direction but that we will speed it up and quadruple the effects. Once the world accepts the ET reality, we'll all be looking at our stars a whole lot differently. The rich will get much richer with the ET reality exposed rather than by hiding it. We need the funding to shift from secret ghouls in the backrooms to open science and technology---we have an incredible brain trust called Humanity-Earth and we need to get everyone involved. The time has come for us to all grow up a little bit.
Q5. If ET exists, why hasn't SETI or anyone else proved it yet?
A5. They are prohibited by classified law from revealing such knowledge, it is as simple as that. Without trying to be insulting, SETI is really more of a PR stunt and nonprofit handout project, not true independent science.
The real science of space listening has confirmed ET since the 1950s but those results were immediately classified "top secret" and of national security importance. That said, the CLE will help unlock that classified data and SETI will get reorganized. It should, in my opinion, get the largest influx of money in its history so it can start work on real science and reporting. Its my hope it becomes one of the world's best resources. I know Seth may disagree with my assessment (it's his job, really) but he should just say 'no comment', move along, then let me try to help him down the road---he and his team deserve a lot better treatment than the government and world have been giving them and I want to help them get it. I want to see SETI as a key ET communications tracking and deciphering body, the preeminent FRB study and analysis institute--independent science. It could be with exposure of the ET reality and if it were properly funded and its mandate upgraded. I hope the CLE can help make that happen.
Q6. You sure seem sure of yourself?
A6. When you do your homework, you get confident and it exudes naturally.
Q7. What sort of evidence is the Blue-Ribbon Panel going to see and use to prove ET exists officially?
A7. First, the panel is neutral so it may end up not proving anything at all officially. However, I doubt that outcome, given the proof we have to give them. As far as the CLE's evidence line-up, sorry, but that is proprietary knowledge. I will say that we have an overabundance of it and that copycats will never have access to it so they will fail--and find themselves in court very fast for their unethical and unlawful troubles. I will also say the hardest part will be in trying to reduce the evidence and cases so we can keep the Reality TV show time-frames in tact and on budget---we can only show so much of what we have. The panel and jury will be getting the "best in class" evidence supported by science or expert analysis, not wild-ass theories and fantasy or Sci-fi crap. These are top people and they will not tolerate anything but legitimate science and investigation---neither will I or the CLE.
Q8. Why is there a non-profit and for-profit arm for this project?
A8. The non-profit is in charge of the scientists and experts. We do not want them to feel, at any time, that this is a work focused on profits or that there is a preconceived verdict they must adhere to. The deck is NOT STACKED! We demand neutrality and professionalism and high standards and integrity and we felt only a non-profit framework could help ensure that.
Now as far as media production and distribution side of the model, there is no way we could reach 70 countries or 1/2 billion viewers using a non-profit business approach---that industry is strictly profit driven and we are exploiting that fact in the name of science---we are taking science to the global masses for the first time and selling science, so to speak, while also turning profits and then plowing some of the profits back into science-based non-profits. It's the best win-win-win scenario there could be because donors to the CLE end up seeing a double pay-off of sorts---their donation is greatly leveraged.
Q9. Why do you use the term Humanity-Earth? I've never heard that before?
iA9. Our project is aimed at helping every human being on Planet Earth as well as helping Earth itself. The compound-noun combines the two concepts into a single word the global public, regardless education level, can understand---at least that is my hope and purpose in using it. Remember, human existence is directly tied to the health and well-being of our planet, and the planet, in great part, depends on humanity to protect and keep it well (as might be possible)---its essentially a symbiotic relationship and we need to all acknowledge and accept that reality as well. For example, If Earth loses its atmosphere or its oceans die off, humanity dies off too so we need to do what we can to protect Earth's atmosphere and oceans---that is good for both Earth and humanity---we both win. I'm reminded of certain indigenous cultures that firmly believe the Earth is sentient and alive just as we are alive, which is why we call it Mother Earth---wanting to protect mothers is human nature.
I recently saw a news report that two-thirds of the Great Barrier Reef is in the throws of death. I scuba-dived on that reef and it is beyond words in beauty. I was also taught by my diving guides and instructors that the reef is our "canary in the coal mine" for our oceans. The reef is sensitive to over-pollution so if it's dying, our oceans are about to die. If our oceans die, all humans die! Therefore, to me, the CLE is vital to getting Humanity-Earth on the same page---to understand we are all in it together. If we don't dramatically change direction very soon, Humanity-Earth will face a human-made extinction event. To me, that is 100 times worse than any ET reality---we humans are the biggest threat to humanity, not ET.
Q10. I thought most scientists and others legitimate experts think all things UFO or ET are ridiculous and they won't touch the subject? Has that changed and if so, why?
A10. There are two distinct realms on this issue. In the "black projects" or "top secret" industry around the globe, scientists and experts are teaching all of us about the ET realities---they study it and we get a lot of facts and information from this group through leaks and science papers and such. However, in the "public" industry and academia and so forth, we have the skeptics and those who are kept in place by threat of losing their paychecks. They often do not realize the fact that their superiors are working for the "black projects" in some way and are ordered to tamp down their interest on the subject---to drum them out if they get too "froggy". Yet some scientists and other experts, even in this group, are now challenging their Dark Age masters and casting them off to pursue real science and discovery and block political-based science and study. We're seeing a major shift going on right now but the wall has not completely broken down yet---but the pressure is building so it won't be long now.
Q11. What does post Disclosure Earth look like to you after the CLE project?
A11. We will see uplifting social and cultural excitement across the globe. We will see humanity coming closer together as they embrace the One Earthling reality that we are all in it together. We will see industries unleash massive amounts of funding for space exploration and ET research and technology. We will see a new found respect for science that uses the scientific method and not the political method. We will see an explosion of new works and writings and research and more on all aspects of cosmic life. We will see philanthropy and government finally embrace the study of ET and related aspects as a serious endeavor. We will see funding for new forms of space propulsion and such projects completed in rapid succession. We will see our first star-ship launched within 3 decades and humankind will likely find its second home plant out among the stars within 50-years. And we will demand the protection of our oceans from humans and industry to a point that we will revolutionize our world into something I call the "Symbiocracy," which is a new way for Humanity-Earth to live, work, and enjoy life while working with nature and protecting our planet, treating her like our mother finally. I may finish the book someday that describes all the details of the system.
However, as great as all that is, the really big pay-offs post CLE will be freeing up classified projects and over-used secrecy, to bring these hidden developments and treasures out into the open so we can leap Humanity-Earth forward. We will have new clean energy that is almost cost-less and that we can put to work ceaselessly---endless energy can actually help humankind solve nearly all of our problems, from environmental, to food production, to salvaging previously used metals, to transportation-- cleaning our oceans---the uses and applications are endless and we will unlock those gift for us all. Yet as powerful as that is, there is an even bigger pay-off, I hope.
It is my firm belief that post Disclosure we, Humanity-Earth, will move away from our obsessions with war, endless military spending, and the industries of death, murder, and destruction and collectively move our focus toward the stars and the ET factor. I've never met a world leader or expert or pundit who says we need a nuclear war and this project has in it the very seeds that can help remove the threat of planetary annihilation from the course of human events. Anybody can destroy a thing but it takes many to grow a peaceful world of coexistence!
Q12. Wow! I wasn't expecting that. I think I will stop there... anything to add?
iA12. At least tell everyone you can to pitch in and help this project in any way possible because worse case scenario, we will being help to global charities like World Wildlife Fund, Water.Org,, Doctors without Borders and others. That is a direct benefit they can see now. It is not important to the CLE whether or not we get 3 Official Yes verdicts proving ET exist, what is important to us is exposing the world to the real facts, evidence, cases, and realities that point us all toward salvation through deeper understanding and appreciation for our living stars! It is time Humanity-Earth grows up and takes it place in the cosmos as an equal life form to that of other intelligences---time we understand that simple reality.
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